Exhausted.
It's finally the end of my third academic year in Polytechnic before the start of Internship Programme. Everyone's tired. We all need a break from this crazy Final Year Project (FYP) that everyone has been losing their sleep for. I can't say that I'm a committed student myself because I'm always late for classes and am quite the slacker in school. But that's only because I'm tired of this environment that we're in.
Project groups competing against one another so as to appease our lecturers. "What if we don't meet their expectations? What if this is not what they want? What if the other group does better than I do? Will that pull down my grades? I can't let that happen. I need to get my group mates to exceed expectations." And there you will see, everyone struggling just to pacify the ones who are liable for our grades, not even sure what knowledge they are gaining out from this anymore. Then you'll hear the usual few phrases that will try to bring you down. "spoil market" / "stop being so hard-core" / "we didn't even put in that much effort" And strangely enough, these phrases come from the teachers' pets who are most committed in their work and getting their A.
Answering questions in class for the sake of participation marks. Is this even normal? The kids my age when I was in primary and secondary school didn't have this kind of mentality. Teachers are there to guide us and clarify our problems if we needed genuine help. Whoever remembered needing to give two damns about "participation marks"? It never even crossed my mind. And the shame of students having the cheek to (not even jokingly) say "participation marks ah" right after they answer a question correctly. Excuse you.
Forcing ourselves to attend lectures just to mark our attendance. Oh, am I so guilty for this. We don't even know what's the point of lectures anymore. Lecturers need to fulfill their job as a lecturer, so we can't put the blame on them. In fact, no one is to blame. It's just really sad having to see all of us stoop this low and "wasting our time" just for the small tick on the attendance list. In case some of you don't know, if you fail to attend 75% of your classes, you could be potentially debarred from examinations or given a Pass/Fail grade for that module. Nobody in the right mind would want to retake a module. Forcing us not to "waste our time" by listening in lectures and stop using our phones or falling asleep isn't going to work either. What we are taught can be self-studied a week before the paper. There isn't really a need for lectures, only consultation classes.
Your presence for group meetings determines your contribution. I realized that, sometimes, students don't even need to contribute much for their groups. Just attend meetings punctually and be there when your group mates are discussing work. Obviously, I'm the opposite of a punctual student who attends school regularly. However, I can say that I make the effort to finish up the assigned work tasked for me when I'm resting at home or on self-declared holidays. However, it just somehow doesn't tally with the amount of contribution you make if you're not present in school, even if you're in school and not even contributing as much. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's the impression that people similar to my situation had left on the others. Once you're seen as someone who doesn't contribute much, no matter how hard you try, most of the people around you will see you in such a light. So, why bother trying so much?
Backstabbing. This couldn't be a shock to the society today, could it? It's so typical - such a typical situation that I don't even really have the energy to fight back on the negativity anymore. Not that I've given up as someone who lost the battle, but I give up on people with such personalities. There's a difference. Can't bring up situations from the past because it's too personal and not a very nice thing to do, but all I can say is that, if there's a problem, always talk it out nicely to the other party, let him/her understand what you feel about his/her contribution. There's no point plastering those happy smiles if the next step you make is stab a few daggers behind him/her. Group work isn't group work if you don't act like a group. Thankfully, I'm glad most of these occurrences seem to be over for now, and things have been cleared up. However, ever since I've been scarred (not trying to sound like a pitiful victim here, though) from such incidences, I can never bring myself to fully trust anyone anymore.
At the end of the day, everyone wants the best for themselves. You might have a few close buddies whom you always hang out or gossip with over lunch break. Course mates who are really lovable and fun-to-be-with, the course clowns who love cracking inside jokes (while the rest laugh along together) and the ones who occasionally bring sweet treats for everyone to share. It's a nice feeling knowing that people care.
But when it comes to projects and school work that concerns their future education, always remember the fine line in between work and play. Most of them aren't really your friends anymore. They are your work mates. Because this would be the treatment you will receive from most of them. I always feel that these people are training themselves when entering into the working society in the future. A realistic bunch who would succumb to selfish acts just to remain at the top. Probably also because I come from the School of Business where it is not normal, not to compete.
I'm not even referring to anyone in particular, but many would probably think so, because the boot fits, doesn't it?
And slowly, we unknowingly become the type of demons we said we'd never be.
I don't even remember how many times I hear people saying "I hate school" because everyone is trapped in this unhealthy environment of studying, but not learning. It's sad, but I'm glad it's all over, for now.
Edit: This post seems to have gotten quite a number of good and bad responses. To clear things up, here is the article, and My Polytechnic Survival Guide as requested. Have a good day!

86 comments:
I agreeee. Students in school of BA live to work and not work to live I hope it changes. It's only my first sem and I was fooled for thinking that my peers were genuinely gregarious and helpful. Please share tips on how to survive in school! All the best for your internship :)
Then why did you choose to enter poly in the first place? You could choose to go JC
This will be how working life is, so deal with it.
Because work is much more competitive than what you have in school. If you can't take it, just leave singapore and migrate.
That's a nice prologue to the society you are going to step out into in a few years fine though!
And I never mentioned that it wasn't. Keeping your name anonymous and telling me what to do... Really? If you can't take posting a mean comment showing your identity, you should leave too.
@anonymous, this is a subjective topic. This writer is only trying to express herself .
Why do you bother to condemn on people when she is trying to share more about how they feel ?
I'm starting my internship soon, which means I've cleared my three years of education. You seem to be missing a point about 'dealing with it'.
I don't plan to go to a university. Poly has its perks too, I'm just speaking from the negative aspect.
It's ok, we all learn through experience! I'll work on that, thanks for the suggestion. Thank you, all the best for your studies in school too! =)
Hey CY! I'm a guy that just ended his FYP, as well as UT! I've no more UT's and im just left with internship, and I'm done! I'm from SAS - Environmental Science btw :)
Like you, I'm also exhausted from all those projects and constant expectations needed for you to obtain the grade you want.
I'm not sure... but I think the culture in between faculties might be different perhaps? Or maybe its just the people and the environment you're with.
So far in my 3 years of lessons, I have to agree that it's damn tiring to compete with other groups, or even your own team mates, to get an A! Especially when we have to contribute to our meetings (Sometimes we just don't have the mood to do it, ugh) , and also answer the lecturer's questions so that we can "angkat" our faci in hoping to get our grade we want.
Well, in my own experience, I was used in such an environment, that I got used to it. For me, I decided that I shouldn't think negatively on this part, and just learn to deal with such situations. Perhaps in the working world, worse stuffs could happen.
And oh! The backstabbing part... yes... Not just in RP, in entire life, I think I've seen so much backstabbing, I sometimes feel depressed about it. Well, just like you, I wouldn't fully trust anyone, but I've made friends in RP that I've really trusted! We even help each other too for our studies or daily grades sometimes, laughs.
At the end of the day... yes, everyone wants the best for themselves. I will admit, I have that kind of mindset too. But with that, I will always want to drag along my team members or my friends with me to get a good grade as well, because I would feel guilty getting the grades I deserve while my other friends don't.
I always try to genuinely help people... but sometimes they might think I'm a fake too. But I understand why they thought so, but It didn't matter. As long as I think I'm being sincere, I'll be good to go !
So I guess all of us RP students understand your plight!
Good luck for your internship! I'm scared as hell for mine.
- Jake, SAS - DENV.
Jia you!
"If you fail to attend 75% of your classes, you could be potentially debarred from examinations or given a Pass/Fail grade for that module."
Then whats the point of going to school, even so how is it fair that people who came to school from the other end of singapore? eg: 8am lesson at ITE simei for someone living at Jurong?
"Your presence for group meetings determines your contribution."
No one bothers about whether the group mate is there to contribute, but whether can the person actually produce what he/she is required to and update the group on his/her progress, however normally people who keep skipping meetings are those that don't bother/give a shit about the project, so yeah.
"Project groups competing against one another so as to appease our lecturers."
Doesn't happen to me, however this is purely the lecturer expecting more, which really depends on which lecturer you get.
I agree with you.
As fucked up as it seems... Students now is Singapore compete for grades. Let alone being in the workforce in Singapore, heck, we are even competing for positions. All men for themselves I guess.
Backstabbing happens as well as all the other shit people do being self-centered to only think of themselves and get what they want.
Everything you said in this post is true. However whatever happens in poly is to train you for the outside world (which will be worst, as you might lose your job). So just suck it up and fyi, you will go thru the same shit during your internship as well. Been there, experienced before, and seriously just fuck care. You do your part, you get your grades.
Totally true.. Grades and survival are the only things important to majority of the Singaporeans lol and that's fucking selfish because they only care about themselves
I think it really depends on how you handle things, I for one, undoubtedly am feeling the stress of having to compete against my friends. That being said, there are some points that I think you could see eye-to-eye with other people with differing opinions
1. Lectures, you may be a fast learner, but what about others who can't absorb anything by themselves and require the lecturers? You might think and tell me " But hey, I can study myself, why should I be required to attend?" One of the reasons why lectures are important is to cultivate discipline into ourselves. When you start working, are you going to be telling your bosses if they send you to seminars that you don't need them since you can pick them up by yourself? I know it's two different things but you get my drift. It will not reflect good on yourself.
2. Backstabbing, yeah, I experienced alot of that shit. But don't let it bring you down or affect you, let people talk all they want, some people might not handle it well like myself, being moody and shit, but I have learnt over the past few years that there are some things we cannot control so why bother wasting energy!
3. Presence for group meeting, you really have to pick the correct group mates in the future, my group, though a guy that didn't want to meet as often, he produced his end goals and even helped me and my fellow group mates and can we fault him for not meeting? Hell no! I appreciate these people that selflessly help others even though we sometimes are a burden to him. It really depends on the members you group with.
4. Project groups competing, Singapore will only become more and more competitive because of foreigners, maybe it will fire up the competitive will within some, maybe some will crumble, but if you accomplished your end goal and manage to impress the teacher in your own rights then it shouldn't be a problem, in my case, I just finished my internship last week, though I might suck bad compared to the company's previous students, I managed to impress them by showing them an attitude that far surpasses the past interns and that impressed them. I know it's not easy but nothing is given to you, we have to earn it. I worked extremely hard for that A for internship as compared to my friend that did nothing to get a A, which leads me to this other point:
Unfairness - I would call it reality because this is how it is, its real, its happening, people bootlick their superiors or chao keng all the way to the top. But are you keep using it as an excuse? Not for me, it might be hard, but it will be worth it.
Keep your head up, don't give up. Work hard and you will succeed in your own right.
Despite all those shit you been through, you've finally completed you're journey in poly. Kudos to you bro!!:)
i agree too
Madam, believe me, in a few years time, you'll look back at these complaints and say these are really manageable and mundane. Likewise, I can envisage my future self telling my present self that whatever gripes I have now really aren't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
No disrespect to the things you said, for they are legit.
I went through poly too - no worries the lessons you learn in there will long serve you. THe backstabbing, politics and sheer hard work are vital skills that cannot be learnt. YOu have all this experience of group dynamics most A-level and uni grads will never have. My advice to any poly student is to - if you can afford it - to study abroad. I suggest the more daring try Germany or Scandinavia - where even foreign students study for virtually free (no fees to pay or small amounts). But of course, you have to master the language, though I think there are more courses in English today than 10 years ago. I almost did that myself - but managed to get my TP Hotel management diploma within eight months to a full (first class) Honuours degree from Leeds Mets Uni in the UK - one of the top providers in my subject area. It cost me only S$30,000 for the fees and accomodation - so only had to work for 2 years to save up. I could work up to 20 hours in the UK per week. I worked at Starbucks - where I could get free food and drinks and was paid GBP5.50 an hour - so I earned GBP400 a month - just enough for me to live on + transport within London. Supermarket food is a lot cheaper in the UK than Singapore and as a student you get 30% off public transport. When there is a will - there is a way!
I will stay as Anonymous but as a Poly Student, GPA is a fail system.
Why are students marked down with easy drop but hard to climb up system? Not everyone is perfect and able to score well under the time line of 6 months. So student need time like Math and English, those aren't easily over 1 night able to score well and it takes months for people who had step out of Norm Education line (Example Entering ITE then to Army and finally poly).
Expand our creativity? Total BS with so much time eaten up. I always wanted to have spare time to do independent project but nope, 8 - 5, 10 - 6 or 8 - 6 (Exclude my total 3hr back and fore trip from home to school), how on earth am I going to find time to innovate things with long timetable and daily flooding homework? Working as a slave maybe will work.
- From a NP Student.
I think those people who asks you to migrate to other countries or asking you to deal with it, have pretty sad lives. Beause from what they say, we can infer that in their lives, even if it sucks, they deal with it. Its good, but why are we all living such a short life just to deal with it?
Hey girl. Just ignore the naysayers cuz heaps of people these days don't seem to understand what our right to have an opinion entails. Like geez people she is just sharing her experience and her opinion. No need for the bloody hatred. Anyway this is a very well written piece article. Kudos
You're cute
its not hatred, he is just saying is the truth in live, when you get to work it will be worse, i have seen people working for 15 over years being laid off by the company just because there is a new manager coming in, worse part is the person is being replaced by his/her "own old staffs"
Well, JC have these problems too.
Anonymous is such an ass. Well, this is coming from a person's point of view so there is no need to bash. If you can't respect that, there should be no reason for you to read this let alone comment.
I for one agree with this post and true, this is going to happen once you step into the adult world but sometimes it's a rude awakening isn't it? Anyway CY, All the best for your internship!! Sure you'll do great Xx
Happens in JC too... personal experience hais
To the author, sorry you are born in this country, this society where there's constant competition in order to keep our standards high. Sorry that this country has no resources other than its people and even this is becoming a problem when our country's fertility rate is so low. I am somebody who came from Poly and in my junior year in a reputable local university. I have to admit that it might seem tough now but when you do make it out, you will be stronger, better and faster (characteristics that all companies are looking out for). University life is worse, I know its difficult to peg a non-quantitative aspect like the difference in difficulty but let's just say it's at least 10 times worst even using the most conservative measure.
To the people out there who says, why GPA? Than again, ask yourself, how should anyone be able to tell the difference between one or another? Should we work like a communist country where everyone get's a fair share and in the mean time, give up our democracy (I know its hard to believe this word in this country anymore)? The same analogy can be used on the idea of monetary system, why is there a need for money? Why don't we still live in the world of barter trade (heck, even this serves the same purpose)? Without any incentive, would anyone still go through the routine to grow rice for your consumption? Snoozing the damned alarm for 10 times every morning and cursing life before one reluctantly head to work? Why do you have the clothes you wear, the things you eat and everything in life? That's the reason why money existed, to act as a safeguard before human's extinction due to our laziness.
I would not hesitate to say that I enjoyed my Polytechnic life the most given all the levels of education that I received. Enjoy while you can, for life's is gonna get tougher when you step out in the real world. Now it's just grades, when you're in the real world, it's your job at stake, your family's gonna go hungry without the dough that you bring home and no longer can you escape from the reality of life. School is when you can still escape, curse at your luck for having the class that you currently have, or the friends you have or had and seriously, enjoy it while it lasts! Cheers!
Once you enter the work force, you will face competition not matter what. Your colleagues may be nice people but not so when a promotion is on the line. With regards to backstabbing, no one will backstab someone 'powerful' who has many allies or strong potential. In NUS and Ivy league, no one dares to offend anyone easily. Unless you are lazy and 'no future' of person you are easy target. I have met people from rich heirs to homeless scholars, they all have chances of being successful and influential people. No one can afford to lose connections with them. During your internship display yourself as a individual with strong potential and people will support you. Best of luck.
NP BA graduate
I loved every min of my time at poly. My best friends then who played such an important role during my mid 20s. I had a relationship with a lecturer as well (from the same faculty which i was in). overall. i loved it. and would relive it again.
Backstabbers are everywhere. In every class, every school, every workplace.
I was a straight As student and i went to SP with a L1B4 of 7 points and the first day the lecturer told us that O levels is just a passport to move to the next phase of education. True that. Countless of skipping classes due to being hungover on thursday mornings, i graduated on time with a less than average GPA.
Did i regret going to poly? Never.
Would things be different if i had went to JC? Maybe.but i would never do that.
Been working for a couple of years now, never made it to University, not sure if i would ever do that. I noticed that there are very significant differences from those who studied in a Poly and those who came from a JC. Poly dudes are usually much more street-smart than JC dudes. Those from the army can tell straight from the way they speak and present themselves who is a poly dude and who is a JC dude
stop complaining and get over it. no point talking about it anyways. thins wont get you anywhere too. it doesnt matter if you like it or not, because this is life for you. nothing goes the way you want it to be. suck it up and deal with it. kudos.
wait till you come uni
Well said, well said.
Yep as much as how poly life may seem, only the strong ones will stand out-similar to the working life. So start learning to lead and fight to be heard! I gradually acquired this back in my poly days cheers!
Well said bro and you deserve a standing ovation fir your comments ������ and please continue to do a good job at work or perhaps enrol on a part time degree course ��
I guess it's just how the education system works. It is just as bad in JC too
Well, alot of people on the internet do not see the whole picture of your article. I respect your opinions and it's your life. Its my first year in poly and so far everything is alright. Your experience does make me realise that poly life wont go smoothly all the way. Best of luck in life.
that is the problem. we have so much "deal with it" attitude. Rather than "let's fix it".
I would like to address each point individually
1) Project groups competing against one another so as to appease our lecturers
no such thing. your lecturer has already gone through countless batches and has a basis to work off on how much he should expect.
also, project work is rarely given marks competitively. it's not a competition. it's just how much quality.
2) Answering questions in class for the sake of participation marks.
this is an active part of learning. if you answer the question, no matter right or wrong, you learn something and remember it better. if you dont participate, there is minimal penalty, but you lose out because you didnt get to absorb the knowledge.
3) Forcing ourselves to attend lectures just to mark our attendance
if you actually paid attention you realize you learn something new every lecture. your mentality cannot be "just wanna graduate without effort"
4) Your presence for group meetings determines your contribution
contribution is directly tied to effort, which is shown by how much work you do. now your teammates are probably not the best of judges, so they just assume whoever turns up the most is probably doing a lot of work. and in most of the cases, that's true.
5) Backstabbing.
can you come up with a solid example? it does happen, but definitely quite rare unless you intentionally create enemies, in which that is your fault for not maintaining good relations with your classmates.
6) At the end of the day, everyone wants the best for themselves.
oh no kidding. you can't expect your friend to take care of your whole life. everyone has responsibilities. managing your own studies is one. this is not to say you cannot have cooperative work. for example i sometimes try to tutor my friends who don't understand, even though i'm usually just teaching the basics. i take a positive attitude and say it's revision.
@the comment above: deal with it, fix it. what needs to be fixed? obviously the author's own mindset.
You sound like you are very knowledgeable but you've already gotten the first point wrong. But I won't spend effort correcting you bcos it's useless talking through minds like yours. All I have to say is - if you can't relate to it, it's obvious we're not on the same boat. If we aren't, why are you even on this page? I'm not your teacher and I won't give you extra points for this. Goodbye.
Actually if you are doing Uni, we can skip all the lectures we want as no attendance is needed for lectures. We can do online lectures or self study, where we will learn because we want to, than wasting your time when you are all sleepy.
Your second sentence proves that you are an arrogant and ignorant person. You may believe that working in a project is fruitless but it is the exact same thing in your future internship. If you can't even please your lecturer how do you expect to please your boss? Even if the internship means nothing to you, what about your future job? The students trying their best to get A naturally are more appreciated by their future bosses cause they are willing to work hard. Been there done that.
-BA graduate 2011
HI EVERYONE. Please read what BA graduate 2011 smarty pants has got to say. This is a perfect example of the teachers' pets and the kind who have no stand or say for themselves - just doing whatever their bosses want them to do bcos they have sad lives, and still having the guts to tell me what and what not to do when all they do is follow the rules. Typical, ball-grabbers - here you go.
I am perfectly open to any explanation you can offer.
if you can point out where my first point is wrong i'll be happy to admit my mistake.
if you didnt understand that statement, it means that the lecturer is marking your project based on how good it is, not how good other people's projects are.
if you think it's related, it's usually not, just your lazy mind trying to find excuses for bad results. saying you are lazy is normal, not an insult btw. most people are internally and naturally lazy.
take it from a fellow student who had made these same mistakes in the past.
Thank you! =)
Totally understand your situation but tbh we have no choice. Its either we compete with them or we die. So since no one wants to die, we have to fight. End of the day, its still the fight or flight game. And when our best is not good enough, we have to accept the fact and move on in life. Cheer up!
interesting piece of article.thumbs up,some people are just overly sensitive.
Dear blogger, thank you for being frank in your views of Poly life. I appreciate your frankness and applaud you for speaking your mind on these issues you felt strongly about.
Regarding you questioning the need for lectures, i fully agree with the fact that having consultation classes will be more productive and that attendance for lecture shouldn't be so strict but given more leeway. Those who said you have the mentality of wanting to graduate without effort do not know what they are saying.
But on the part of groupwork contribution, sadly it has to be determined by presence of members. This is because members need to be all present in order to give effective input and also allow for fruitful discussion. If member turnout is poor, it shows that the group is uncooperative and lacks initiative thus the marks for group contribution need to be allocated in such a manner to prevent freeloaders.
As for backstabbers, it is probably your BA sch culture so bobian you have to live with it there. I have many BA friends who tell me about this phenomenon so it comes as no surprise. Always think for yourself, do you have so many bad things for others to say against you? If no, then don't be too worried. Get good connections, so people will realise that your network is hard to break down and that you are a force to be reckoned with.
As for project groups competing to appease lecturers, i'm not sure how you arrive at such a conclusion cos it is the first allegation of its kind that I have heard in my life as an NP student from year 1 to present.
Just try to chill ah. Like what the British love to say, Keep Calm & Carry On. Jiayous kays! Stay happy cos you deserve to be. XD
Remember this: what comes easy will lead you to a hard life, and vice versa, what comes hard will lead you to an easy life.
If you choose to find fault with the system, though I'm not saying it is a perfect system, the system will only fall on you. And in the years to come you would wish you worked harder. But if you just suck it up now, hey, maybe in 25 years when you might have a chance to look out out your balcony that overlooks Orchard Road.
Just some food for thought. It's not impossible.
Darling dear, i would say your poly life did you WELL.
I had to work 6 years into my job to learn the above things you mentioned.
All the skills you need to survive in an organisation you have picked up already.
Cheers
Hnmm..a lot like uni..
When you grow up you'll understand this is part of life. Competition encourages growth and improvement. You can ignore and just run your own race. School is just a start, what matters most is how you end your career. Backstabbing and pleasing people is part of working life too.
agree. poly was the easiest days of my life.
This is so true. I'm not a business student though. I'm a design student. Which makes everything worse. Your creativity is put to test. But then again, different people have different preference in the things they like or find "creative" and "interesting". Something good to me, may be shot down by others. Projects were pretty much retarded also. 20% goes to peer appraisal. If your workmates doesn't like you, there goes your grades.
I won't say I'm an outcast in my course but then I'm not one of the popular kids also. It gets hard to find people who are exactly like you, or simply those whom you can click with. Now I'm a graduate and I've never felt so happy to be out of that hell. Kudos to you for posting this up (:.
Fresh grad from nyp here. Personally I think u wrote very true *negative* aspect. Poly life hav perks too fr u I sure. Cheers up!
The story of my life. LOL.
I do believe in what you're saying but I also do believe that different schools you experience different things and everything is just part of our learning journey. Well since you're over with that phase.. So just take it as you've seen another ugly side of the society and take it as a skill for your future :) jiayous
It kinda sadden me when I come to the part about you stop trusting people. I too come from poly where i experienced all those points you mentioned and especially backstabbing and boycotting. But I believe this little amount of scumbags, which are less than 0.1% population of Earth should not make you change your perspection of the rest of the 99.9%. I'm sure just open your eyes widely and with more experience in meeting more people. You will find more of those people you can truly trust :) Good Luck on your internship
You know, ultimately, everyone is so obsessed with getting good grades that they lose themselves and get to the point where you don't even know if "friends" are really true friends after all.
it's as real as it gets, polytechnic education prepares you for actual work, glad you learnt the hard way, at least u probably won't be making the same mistakes at work
Singapore's education system is a race for grades and only grades, with no drilling in morality whatever so. Hence all the backstabbing and other shit that pours out from students' hearts all the time, because all that they know is to get good grades, good reputation for being useful, and then good pay, but all these are achieved using any means necessary without any semblance of a moral compass. Especially in Singapore's polytechnics, where students don't even know their own Principal and there is no sense of morality among the students at all. Whichever course you come form, business, engineering, events, media, music, science or math, 99.9% of people are going to be like this for their own survival, and when people like this graduate, all that they are doing is to contribute to GDP etc, plus replenishing the pool of backstabbing and spite in the working world, ultimately allowing extending society's excuse to continue like this forever in the name of survival. High time for schools and leaders here to do something about character-building and morality instead of only forcing students to chase after grades and papers all the time. **** those who made SG into such a place.
After my previous comment about morality among students, I really want to thank you for being so brave and typing the truth of poly education in Singapore. At the start of the first year, I was bent on being a real friend to my entire class; by now nearing the end of the third year, I realised that my sincerity only opened me up to backstabbing from all of them. At first, I thought that being friends and shunning backstabbing was the norm; now I know that backstabbing and shunning the victims are the norm. Before poly, I was black and white; now, I'm grey all over and I don't even know what is black and what is white anymore.
And like what Dereschia Jocelyn commented previously, while this may be true of all course and most students, this stupid social trend is even worse in creative courses, where popular people will get all their ideas praised, accepted and acknowledged, while those who are disliked or not so popular will get their ideas rejected and scorned at, no matter how creative/brilliant the ideas are. People nowadays just cannot be trusted to be objective. As they say nowadays, 'all the stupid ones like to talk so much only for the sake of shutting the smart ones up.'
Being from a JC, I suppose I haven't had the same experiences but anon has a point. Why turn projects and presentations into a competition when it's meant to be an assessment of what you've learnt anyway. Sure you're benchmarked against everyone else but how the marking is carried out shouldn't matter as long as you (and your group) know that you've put in enough effort into the project.
Love this article. I could relate to nearly all the points. The backstabbing part can be true throughout your whole life. I've given up trying to place too much trust on my peers or anyone. The best thing to do is to be independent and learn as much as you can. People don't wanna waste time to help someone if they can't help themselves. X.X all the best for your internship. I still have 2 papers. π_π
HAHA know how u feel man, thats just poly for ya:) anyway dont let these things affect the way you live your life and act in the future. There are many good people out there and you have just simply met some not so good ones. Well nice article anyway and good luck with living in singapore!
Um.. I would just like to ask what's wrong with answering questions for participation marks? Like I don't understand why you feel it's such a bad thing.
Writing out ur thoughts is fine. But maybe think about consequences? Now everything getting more and more digital, this post is stored in archive. Next time finding history not through books but through database and this post and others will be there the rest of ur life. Won't be nice if ur boss sees it in the future. No offense, just letting u know.
It's not exactly wrong, but then again, it feels as if a wrong impression is given to answer only when marks are given, not because of your willingness as a student to share your thoughts with the class. Then it leads to the whole competitive environment again. I know competitiveness is good, but too much of it is unhealthy. Sometimes, students don't bother participating in class anymore when no marks are given. I don't propose anything, but I for one don't like how it works.
Haha, I should be glad then. Thanks!
Yay!
I wish you good luck sucking your whole life up!
It's fine, I have nothing to hide. How about you, Anonymous? =)
Cheow Yi i ♥ u!!!
Cheow Yi i do agree with you that sometimes it does occur to quite a number of people in poly. However, i would say that no matter what we do whether or not we are working, or studying as a student with many projects to overcome the key factor to these is just one word - 'Communication.' So my question would be: even if per say your group mates did not even bother to try and communicate with you and are a bunch of ignorant people, have u tried to communicate and understand your group mates instead? In the very beginning?
The fact that poly life have left you some unpleasant memories is pretty bad because we should enjoy life as it is although we all cannot deny the fact that in Singapore, if we were to backtrack over the past few years, in KinderGarden, Primary schools, Secondary schools till poly or jc in fact uni we have always been studying. Studying after studying. With competition rising to a higher level almost every now and then. Driving us to be competent and the desire to beat others becoming more realistic in our society.
Im glad that you have completed your three years of education in poly, thereby i wish you luck in your near future regardless in the prospects of relationship or monetary in life and become who you want to be.
cheers :D
zp- Year 1 student in poly :O
Showing up for lectures and group meetings on time are a part of being a responsible student and team member. If you don't even have the basic respect to turn up for your lecturers and team members when you have no valid reason, no matter how brilliant your work is, you are just not a responsible and disciplined person with proper time management.
Not targetting this at the author. Just saying this in general for the points stated in the article.
But here's the difference between work and school IMO
-Work you go to work because you expected to get paid at the end of the day and you will if you don't fuck up and lose your job. So you just drag your ass to work and deal with the people there.
-School you go there expecting to learn but instead you're faced with trying to compete with your classmates ends up you rarely learn anything and it ends up as you memorizing and remembering things only to puke it out during exams and this demoralizes one to attend school as it seems like you're basically wasting your time as the things you get "taught" can be self-taught at home. So basically you go to school to get your attendance only and to clarify things with lecturers or attend lectures that can't be self-taught easily. Group meetings aren't really a need to go honestly, unless the group really wants to. With technology its easy to discuss the things someone needs to do and split up the work accordingly.
Hey, this article seems to be interesting. I was once a student studying in Singapore and I am just curious whether a poly grad and uni graduate who earns a higher pay.
@Anaroxf Here is the post you requested: http://cheowster.blogspot.sg/2014/09/my-polytechnic-survival-guide.html Hope it helps!
@Anonymous (30 Aug, 22:08) Thank you! Uni grads usually earn a higher starting salary because they are "more skilled and experienced", which is why many students want to enter a university even though some don't even know which direction they want to head towards. They just want a more stable income.
I think we need to meet up and discuss which of our poly sucks more ! LOL
stumbled upon your post just as I wrote my own! tell me what you think http://blogloleni.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/freshie-thoughts-3-things/
Well said
Agree! But yeah singapore is always like that! Go out of there if you want to live life to the fullest! Life is short remember!
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